{"id":1047,"date":"2012-12-20T09:51:53","date_gmt":"2012-12-20T07:51:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.erm.ee\/?p=1047"},"modified":"2013-10-07T15:07:08","modified_gmt":"2013-10-07T13:07:08","slug":"naised-vanavara-vedamas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.erm.ee\/?p=1047","title":{"rendered":"Naised vanavara vedamas"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fcbkbttn_buttons_block\" id=\"fcbkbttn_left\"><div class=\"fcbkbttn_like \"><fb:like href=\"https:\/\/blog.erm.ee\/?p=1047\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\" layout=\"standard\"  width=\"225px\" size=\"small\"><\/fb:like><\/div><div class=\"fb-share-button  \" data-href=\"https:\/\/blog.erm.ee\/?p=1047\" data-type=\"button\" data-size=\"small\"><\/div><\/div><p>&#8220;Vanavara kogumisretkedelt 9. Marie Heiberg, Marta Veiler, Bertha Veske&#8221;<br \/>\nKoostas Piret \u00d5unapuu<\/p>\n<p><em>Tuuli Kaalep, vastutav toimetaja<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Vanavara kogumisretkede \u00fcheksas raamat eristub eelmistest \u2013 oma lugusid jagavad Marie Heiberg, Marta Veiler ja Bertha Veske \u2013 \u00fched esimesed vanavara korjamas k\u00e4inud naised. 20. sajandi alguses Eestis liikvel olnud enam kui saja vanavarakorjaja seas oli naisi v\u00e4he \u2013 t\u00fc\u00fcpiline tollane koguja oli meessoost \u00fcli\u00f5pilane. Esimesed kaks naiskogujat \u2013 Helmi Reiman ja Marie Heiberg tegid kogumist\u00f6\u00f6ga algust 1912. Kui ERM kutsus 1913. a inimesi \u00fcles ka linnades vanavara koguma, lisandus kogujate ridadesse ka enam julgeid neidusid, teiste seas kogusid Tartus Marie Heiberg ning Bertha Veske \u00f5de Josephine. Ilmselt oli linnas kogumine nii neidudele kui ka nende peredele lihtsamini seeditav: sagedamini mindi koguma just kodulinna ning seega liiguti enamv\u00e4hem tuttavas \u00fcmbruses, \u00f5htuks sai koju ning\u00a0v\u00f5ib arvata, et linnainimese jaoks polnud uksele koputav t\u00fctarlaps niiv\u00f5rd \u201ev\u00f5\u00f5ras\u201c ja \u201ekahtlane\u201c.<\/p>\n<p>Tuntuim naistest, kelle \u00fclest\u00e4hendused nende kaante vahelt leiab, on 16aastaselt luulekoguga deb\u00fcteerinud kirjanik Marie Heiberg. Saame tutvuda tema kogumisp\u00e4evikutega \u00c4ksi (1912) ja Laiuse (1913) kihelkonnast. Teine kirjutaja on Marta Veiler, tuntud kunstniku Eduard Taska abikaasa. 1913. a kogumismatkal L\u00e4\u00e4ne-Nigulas k\u00e4is paar \u00fchiselt, seikluste kirjapanek j\u00e4i Marta \u00f5lule. \u00d5dede Bertha ja Josephine Veske elust on aga teada vaid \u00fcks seik \u2013 1913. aastal elasid nad Tartus M\u00e4e t\u00e4nav 9-6. Samal 1913. aastal kogusid nad R\u00f5uges ning kirjat\u00f6\u00f6 j\u00e4i selles tandemis Berta hooleks.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.erm.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/Vanavara-9_kaaned_3mm-bleed_vk.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1060\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/blog.erm.ee\/?attachment_id=1060#main\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/blog.erm.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/Vanavara-9_kaaned_3mm-bleed_vk.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1024,687\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Vanavara 9_kaaned\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/blog.erm.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/Vanavara-9_kaaned_3mm-bleed_vk.jpg\" class=\" wp-image-1060 alignnone\" title=\"Vanavara 9_kaaned\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.erm.ee\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/Vanavara-9_kaaned_3mm-bleed_vk-1024x686.jpg\" width=\"1024\" height=\"686\" \/><\/a>\u00dclimalt lihtsustades t\u00e4hendab vanavara kogumine pidevat sisenemist v\u00f5\u00f5rasse ruumi, milles toimetulek eeldab head kohanemisv\u00f5imet ja kindlasti eelt\u00f6\u00f6d. Koguja peab leppima sellega, et v\u00f5\u00f5ral, kelle l\u00e4vele ta kas omal algatusel v\u00f5i teadjate soovitusel lootusrikkana astub, pole kohustust avada tundmatu(i)le ei ust ega s\u00fcdant, kirstudest-kappidest r\u00e4\u00e4kimata. Kogujast, ka p\u00e4ris algajast, peab kiirk\u00e4igul saama kogenud pilguga professionaal, et oskamatusest v\u00f5i liigsest entusiasmist p\u00f5hjustatud mured saaks murtud v\u00f5i v\u00e4hemalt veidi murendatud.<\/p>\n<p>V\u00f5ib k\u00fcsida, kas naiste jaoks oli kogumisretk kuidagi teistsugune (raskem?, kergem?), kas ja milliseid probleeme neil ette tuli ning kas need tulenesid koguja soost v\u00f5i olid pigem universaalset laadi. Vastuseid otsin kolme naise kogumismuljetest.<\/p>\n<p>Ootused ja tegelikkus lahknesid ikka ja j\u00e4lle. Koguja v\u00f5is saada kena esemesaagi, kuid hinge j\u00e4i pettumus, sest\u2026: <em>L\u00e4ksin K\u00e4rtna [K\u00e4rkna] walda, kus lugu palju parem oli. Kopli talust \u00fcksi sain \u00fcmber k\u00fcmne asja ja j\u00e4eti asju ka weel endale: \u201eEgas k\u00f5ike raatsi \u00e4ra anda\u201d <\/em>(Marie Heiberg). <em>L\u00e4bik\u00e4idud osasse j\u00e4id ka m\u00f5ned asjad saamata: Hallikm\u00e4e k\u00fcla waestemajasse, Paliwere wallas j\u00e4i 1 korudega naeste kuub mida Liisu Altmann isegi n\u00e4idata ei tahtnud, weel w\u00e4hem kinkida w\u00f5i m\u00fc\u00fca, pidi tema ainuke kiriku k\u00e4imise kuub olem<\/em>a (Marta Veiler). P\u00e4ris sageli sai koguja kuulda kurba t\u00f5de, et ta on oma tulekuga hiljaks j\u00e4\u00e4nud: \u201e<em>Ol\u00f5-\u00f5i meil midagi, k\u00f5ik wei setto \u00e4rr<\/em>\u201c (Bertha Veske).<\/p>\n<p>Mujalt p\u00e4rit inimene ei pruukinud p\u00e4riselt m\u00f5ista konkreetse maanurga erip\u00e4rasid, samuti ei antud talle alati v\u00f5imalust enda (ja laiemalt muuseumi) seisukohti selgitada. Eriti keeruliseks muutus asi siis, kui enne kogujat olid kohale j\u00f5udnud kuulujutud: <em>Taebla vald, Kirim\u00e4e k\u00fcla: Rahwas oli hirmuga k\u00f5ik wanaaegsed ja isegi uued piibli ja testamendi raamatud \u00e4ra peitnud, piiblid maa sisse kastides matnud, muist lae alla k\u00f5rgelle puude pinu peale \u00e4ra peitnud, kirjud seelikud ahju taha topinud. K\u00fclas oli arwamine, et jumala s\u00f5na raamatud tahetakse \u00e4ra korjata ja \u00e4ra h\u00e4witada, w\u00e4giwallaga aitadesse ja p\u00f6\u00f6ningutele tungida, koik wanaaegsed asjad w\u00e4gise \u00e4ra wiia. \u201eHirmsad ajad on k\u00e4es!\u201d ohkisid eided, kui Museumi \u00fcleskutsetest kuulnud olid, \u201eK\u00e4sk olla v\u00e4lja antud k\u00f5ik p\u00fcha kirja raamatud \u00e4ra korjata, peidame \u00e4ra, mis j\u00f5uame, matame maa sisse, ainult mitte neile \u00e4ra anda. Naisterahwas see korjab ka k\u00f5ik naeste riided \u00e4ra, meesterahwas see otsib wanu t\u00f6\u00f6ristu, peidame k\u00f5ik \u00e4ra, mis j\u00f5uame.\u201c <\/em>Toimunust h\u00e4mmeldunud<em> <\/em>Marta Veiler v\u00f5ttis kohalikud olud j\u00e4rgmiselt kokku:<em> Muidu on k\u00fcla j\u00f5ukas, suured talud, igal pool koorelahutajaid, edenenud karjakaswatus ja n.e. <\/em>Ebausulainele j\u00e4\u00e4des ei saa j\u00e4tta mainimata ka L\u00e4\u00e4ne-Nigula kihelkonnas t\u00e4heldatud t\u00e4iesti enneolematut ravimeetodit: <em>Rahwa ebausku n\u00e4itab paar juhtumist, kus r\u00e4\u00e4giti et poeg olla k\u00e4e w\u00f5i jala \u00e4ra nikastanud ja selle rohuks s\u00f5le ehk preesi \u00e4ra s\u00f6\u00f6nud niisama <\/em>(MV)<em>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Maainimesele, kes p\u00e4evast p\u00e4eva p\u00f5llul v\u00f5i heinamaal r\u00fcgas, tundus suisel ajal ringi r\u00e4ndamine sobimatu ja nii oligi tal raske vanavarakorjaja ja tema soovidega suhestuda: <em>ja jah, kui aega om no mis siis wiga hulkuda, tulge parem kapsaid isdutama <\/em>(BV).<\/p>\n<p>1913. aastal, kui iseseisvalt tegutsevad-r\u00e4ndavad t\u00fctarlapsed veel v\u00e4ga tavaline n\u00e4htus polnud, tundusid noormeeste seltsis majast majja liikunud linnast p\u00e4rit t\u00fctarlapsed aga eriti kahtlased:\u00a0 <em>\u201ejah mine sa tea kes teie olete ja mis teie \u00fcmber hulgute? Wana-wara seda teie ainuld \u00fctlete ni, teie peate iki sugulase olema egas siis mudu w\u00f5i noored inimesed ni \u00fches k\u00e4ia, wast olete koguni \u00f5ed ja wennad?\u201c \u201eJah, oleme k\u00fcll \u00f5ed,\u201c seletasime.<\/em> (BV)<\/p>\n<p>V\u00f5ib \u00f6elda, et kogumist\u00f6\u00f6 keerukused t\u00f5id \u00fchtviisi muret nii nais- kui meessoost kogujaile (vt ka sarja eelmisi raamatuid &#8220;Vanavara kogumisretkedelt&#8221; 1-8,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.erm.ee\/et\/pood\/valjaanded\/vanavara-kogumisretkedelt\">http:\/\/www.erm.ee\/et\/pood\/valjaanded\/vanavara-kogumisretkedelt<\/a>), erinevused olid p\u00f5hiliselt n\u00fcanssides. Sasipundarde lahtiharutamisel oli esmajoones abiks vanavarajakoguja \u00a0kiire taip, terav silm, varasem kogemus ning oskus igale k\u00fcsimusele paras vastus leida.<\/p>\n<p>Kui l\u00fckata k\u00f5rvale halb ilm, saamata j\u00e4\u00e4nud kirikukuub ning umbusklikud inimesed t\u00fckkis nende kurjade koertega, tuleb r\u00f5\u00f5msalt esile kogumist\u00f6\u00f6 helgem pool.\u00a0P\u00e4ev v\u00f5is olla vanavara poolest vaene, kuid hetke nautimast ei keelanud keegi: <em>Ilusad maakohad tasusid teekonna waewa \u00e4ra <\/em>(MH). Liikudes maastiku ilu juurest edasi, leidis koguja aga p\u00f5hilise rikkuse \u2013 abivalmis inimesed: <em>ohdu kella 6 \u00fcmber tabas meid \u00fcks tupli hoog wihma maja kusgilgi l\u00e4heduses ei olnud, siis saime nagu \u00f6\u00f6ldakse l\u00e4bi m\u00e4rjaks, m\u00e4rjades rietes k\u00fclma \u00f5hduse \u00f5hu k\u00e4es pehme porise maa peal ei olnud mitte l\u00f5bus majast, majase k\u00e4ia, see noor saks oli ni lahge ja lubas need majad mis l\u00e4bi k\u00e4imata j\u00e4iwad, ise l\u00e4bi korjata, sest et minul teise p\u00e4ewa jauks isegi plaan oli, ni k\u00f5mpisime kooli maja juure, kus \u00fcks klaas sooja teed k\u00f5ik j\u00e4lle tasa kaalu seadis <\/em>(BV).<\/p>\n<p>Kolm naist kirjutab vanavara kogumisel kogetust \u00fcksikasjalikult, asjatundmise ja huviga. On n\u00e4ha, et neile noortele naistele meeldis t\u00f6\u00f6, mida nad muuseumi heaks tegid. Marie Heiberg s\u00f5lmib otsad kokku: <em>Alati on ka neid, kelle juurde j\u00f5udes saab koguja aru, et just tema oligi oodatud. Talu rahwas Wiljandimaalt sisse r\u00e4nnanud. Maramaa wallas, kus teekonda jatkasin leidsin ka suurema osa wanawara taludes, kus mulgid elasid. \u201eSiin k\u00e4isid m\u00f5ne aasta eest ka wanawara korjajad, kes Peterburi Wene Museumi jaoks korjasid. Meie neile ei annud, waid \u00fctlesime: Kui Eesti Rahwa Museumi korjaja tuleb, siis anname.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Raamat on saadaval ERMi muuseumipoes ja e-poes (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.erm.ee\/et\/pood\/valjaanded\/eesti-rahvakultuur\/vanavara-kogumisretkedelt-9-m-heiberg-m-veiler-b-veske\">http:\/\/www.erm.ee\/et\/pood\/valjaanded\/eesti-rahvakultuur\/vanavara-kogumisretkedelt-9-m-heiberg-m-veiler-b-veske<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>P.S. 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